BYGONE KENT
The February 2001 edition (Vol. 20 No.2.) contains a
number of pieces of Greenwich interest.
These include – an article by Diana Rimel on Thomas Tilling (1825-1893)
Livery Stables and Depots in the South East (including details on the
Blackheath and Shooters Hill depots), an article by Mary Mills on Jim Hughes
and Orinoco – in which Mary writes up the late Jim Hughes' notes on Hughes
Barge builders at Providence Wharf in Greenwich, an article by Richard
Hugh-Perks on 'The barges of Frederick Hughes of East Greenwich (giving details of Orinoco and other barges),
and Bernard Brown on 'Romeo, Law and Order in Old Greenwich 1699-1899 (are the
police industrial history??).
THE ISLE OF
DOGS 1066-1918
This publication on the history of one of Greenwich's
nearest neighbours is produced by the Island History Trust. It is by Eve Hostettler from
Dockland Settlement,
This is a fascinating account of life and work on the
Isle of Dogs – mainly in the past 150 years.
It is embellished with many many interesting photographs- something
collected by the Island History Trrust over nearly twenty years. There was always a strong interchange between
Greenwich and the Island with residents from both sides working on the
other. Many Island families migrated to
Greenwich as they prospered. It is
highly recommended to anyone interested in our recent industrial past.
A RIVER THAMES
GUIDE
This booklet is by Bob Jeffries, a member of the
Metropolitan Police River Thames Division – and thus rests on his intimate
knowledge of the riverside from Woolwich to Battersea. It is a commentary on what can be seen from
the river – and an antidote to much of the nonsense which tourists are told
every day! On your next river trip, you could do a lot worse than take a copy
with you!
CROSSNESS ENGINES RECORD
The Winter 2001 copy of Crossness Engines Record
brings some welcome news from the 'Octagon' – the area of the Crossness Pumping
Station built by Bazelgette in the nineteenth century.
Much of the work on cleaning and polishing linkages
and connecting rods on the 'Prince Consort' steam engine have been completed
and the team are looking forward to setting up the parallel motion
linkage. Concern is growing about these
polished parts in the damp engine house and a small team will be set up to
check their condition on a regular basis.
For example, the governor put on display 3 or 4 years ago is now having
to be stripped for re-polishing.
The Boiler Inspector has visited the site and given
the ok for work to proceed in constructing a boiler room. The welders, Ernie
Burrell and Albert Stedman, have built brick walls for the new boiler
room.
Two of the original large steam pipes have been
pressure tested and will act as reservoirs of steam when the engine is first
started up. Four windows in the Octagon
have been fitted with special shutters so there is now a lot more
daylight!
The Record also contains some extracts from Hansard on
the 'Great Stink ' of 1858, a miscellany of useful facts on sanitation, and on
the Sewers of Paris.
INDUSTRIAL HEROISM
Postmans' Park in the City of London is the site of a
national memorial to heroic men and women and was conceived by Mr G F Watts in 1887.
So in 1900 a dedicated wall displaying the names and the heroic deed was
instigated, with each one displayed using decorated tiles by Doulton,
Lambeth. One of
the names and their deed is recorded as follows:
P.C. Edward
George Brown Greenoff Metropolitan Police many lives were saved by his devotion
to duty at the terrible explosion at Silvertown. 19 Jan 1917.
The tiles are in good order and laurel leaves form a
border around these words. Postman's
Park is off St Martin's Le Grand, EC2.
The memorial is obviously incomplete and the history of it must be
recorded with the Guildhall library.
Kate Jones
ROYAL ORDNANCE ARTEFACTS IN STORE
I've been told that
many artefacts are in store at the MOD Depot at Glascoed near Usk, kept with a
view to setting up a museum there with items from other sites – like Woolwich
Arsenal, and Waltham Abbey. I will let
you know when I hear more.
John Bowles
MERRYWEATHERS
The 'Ashburnham Triangle' by Diana Rimel, contains
some information about Merryweather's.
Richard Cheffins.
CALL FOR PAPERS
The
29th Annual meeting of the
History of Technology Group. .This will be held at the Chatham Campus of the
University of Greenwich for the weekend 29th June – 1st
July 2001. Offers of papers should be sent before the end of April 2001 to
Dr.Colin A.Hempstead, 2 Uplands Road, Darlington, Co.Durham DL3 7SZ. Contributions should be 'welcomed in view of
the historical significance of the Thames Estuary and its immediate environs in
the development of electrical engineering, papers relating to the various industries
and establishments that grew up along the banks of the river from submarine
telegraph cables of the 1850s to semiconductors and computers'.
WORKSHOPS FOR THE BLIND
I noticed a request for information in your last issue
about the Greenwich Workshops for the Blind. My father was a worker at the
Workshop for the Blind and spent most of his working life there until he
retired.
There was a Workshop for the Blind with a shopfront in
Greenwich High Road situated in the middle of the block, which now has the Ibis
Hotel at one end and a residential home at the other end. The premises in Greenwich High Road were
large with a glass fronted shop window, which displayed for sale the goods made
by the blind people. A variety of
basketware was made for business (laundry baskets etc,) and for the public
(shopping/picnic/gardening baskets etc) all of which were beautifully displayed
in the window. When this shop closed for
redevelopment of the block my Father was transferred to Eastney Street. At Eastney Street were made fendoffs (rope
buffers) for ships and also mattresses.
The foreman was named Jim and when Greenwich High Road was closed he
opened up a small shop in Trafalgar Road selling the basketware. Jim had all his faculties and was an
accomplished singer. He had a good
relationship with the men.
On one occasion that I remember visiting by father in
Eastney
GREENWICH MADE THEODOLITE
Recently I cleaned up a small theodolite which I
inherited. Theinstrument, pocket sized really, was made at Troughton
and Sims in Charlton, although it says 'London' on the case. It must have been
made at the beginning of the century and I was told it was an 'apprentice's
piece'. Made of wood and brass it is
fully comprehensive with a compass, spirit levels, protractor and many
different measuring tables. I do not want to dispose of it but I am wondering
if this small neat instrument could have been used by Surveyors?
Barbara
Ludlow
BLACKWALL TUNNEL
With reference to the letter from Linda Dobinson in
Vol. III Issue 4 – this information should be of help. The Tunnel was built between 1892 and 1897 –
width 24½ ft.
Now, a few reminiscences from my commuting days
between 1937 and 1939 on the 108 bus from the Standard to Bromley by Bow. In those days, there were narrow footways
each way with granite kerbs so the carriageway was a lot narrower. The tunnel was open to foot passengers but
the practice was for horse drawn and motor traffic to hug the kerbs which
became highly polished. The iron tyred
cartwheels made high pitched squeaky noises, which went eerily along the
tunnel. There was no overtaking and the
speed was that of the slowest – if you got behind a cart well that was 'life',
to use the current vernacular! As
regards cleanliness - it was always well kept and the only smell was motor
exhaust. The air was always foul and a
hazy, dirty, greyish, blue. I'm sure
Julian Watson at Woodlands could give a full history of the building of the
tunnel.
Ted Barr
Pat O'Driscoll's Account of a' recent visit'
I too have recently walked the path from 'The
Trafalgar' to the Blackwall Tunnel entrance.
Oh! What a change from the
1920s! In those days, it was full of
interest, almost continuously by the water's edge and one could see what was
going on in many of the factories.
Now - 2000, and all that! Just an elongated brick paved pedestrian
precinct, guard rails and high walls and fences full of threatening notices,
guard dogs CTVs and the rest of it.… As I approached each corner, I almost
expected to see watch towers, searchlights and machine guns pointing menacingly
down! The name, too, - why change it? It was always the 'Riverbank', which is what
it's basically for and marked as such on the Ordnance Maps for 100 years.
I have many more memories of a personal nature, which
have no place here, but I'm always pleased to talk about the path to anyone
patient or mad enough to listen! .
And also … 'The Greenwich so-called Peninsula'. Does anyone know the identity of who dreamed
this name up! A peninsula is just not
what it is. My Oxford dictionary defines
a peninsula as a 'piece of land almost surrounded by water or projecting far
into the sea'. The maps label the area
as 'Greenwich Marshes' and it formed part of the Borough's political
administration as 'Marsh Ward'.
Ted Barr
Stone's of Deptford
This is a response to a letter from Louise
Carpenter. The full name of the company was
J.Stone & Co. Ltd., Arkwright Street, Deptford, SE8. They were founders and manufacturers of train
lighting systems used on railways in many parts of the world. The use of the apparent plural was simply
local slang, or perhaps, jargons. Most
of the big names in industry were on the lower levels of the Borough and folk
higher up in Charlton and Blackheath mostly went down hill to work ... 'down at Stones' ... or 'down Johnson's' –
meaning Johnson and Phillips Ltd. ... or
'down Harvey's' – meaning G.A. Harvey Ltd. In my day at United Glass on the riverbank,
it was 'down the glass blowers'. The
only local exception was Molins of Evelyn Street Deptford - the name being
Molins Manufacturing Co, Ltd, Makers of tobacco machinery. Some of these organisations were known again
locally as the Greenwich sweatshops because of low pay, non union recognition
and appalling working conditions which by today's standards would be as alien
as funny little men from Mars!
Ted Barr
INVICTA SCHOOL
This is a response to comments in a letter from Norman
Bishop. I too was at Invicta School
1919-1924. In the Second World War, it was an AFS Station. The mine fell on the gas-meter sheds
alongside their quarters in the main building.
There were many fatalities, including two of my friends – Walter Smith
who lived opposite the school and Charlie Barrow, from Hassendean Road.
Ted Barr
MERRYWEATHER'S
FIRE ENGINES
The National Railway Museum at York have a number of
fire engines. Have they anything from
Greenwich?
Ted Barr
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